|. William Collier of Southwestern Virginia
. author: Michael D. Nestor, email: firstname.lastname@example.org
. William Collier,1 (ancestry unknown)
. Little detailed information on him, other than he was in the 1770 Pittsylvania Co, Va tax list, with he and Aaron Collier listed
. William was apparently the William Collier who was one of the "long hunters" who traveled and hunted in western Virginia in the
. period 1760-75, before the area was settled, and was mentioned in "Early Adventures on the Western Waters", Kegley & Kegley,
. Vol 1, p 81-84. William Collier was mentioned in depositions in the court records of Augusta Co, Va about 1800-04:
. "William Collier deposes that in the winter and spring preceding Christian's campaign he remained at the Camp of Thomas
. Lovelady. William was a hunter and trapper." This was about 1770-71, and refers to the settlement in Turkey Cove in
. Powell's Valley in present Lee Co, Va. Also: "Collier was always called Lying Bill Collier." The above references seem
. likely to be the same William Collier, as Aaron Collier later lived in the exact area of Lee Co where the older William Collier
. previously visited.
. The following references (not all of which are proven to be for the same William) show that William Collier was living in the area
. of Frying Pan Creek in Pittsylvania Co, the exact same area that Abraham Goad (#3) (father of Elizabeth Goad Collier, below)
. obtained a land grant in 1769:
. 1741 Surry Co, Va: William Collier was a witness for the deed of gift by Ambrose Jackson to Ambrose Jackson Jr.
. 1752 Lunenberg Co, Va tithable list: Wm Collier. (a John Collier and his son Thomas also listed)
. 1770 Pittsylvania Co, Va tithable list: William Collier and Aaron Collier listed together, with one taxable amount assessed, appar-
. ently to William.
. 1771, 28 Nov: Vestry Bk of Camden Parish, Pittsylvania Co: Ordered that John Wheeler, William Collier, and Thomas Collier
. procession all the patent land from the Old Woman's Creek up Stanton River to Pigg River, thence up Pigg River to the Fry-
. ing Pan Creek, thence up the said creek to the head, thence along the ridge that divides Stanton waters from Banister waters
. to the head of Old Woman's Creek, thence down the same to Stanton River at the beginning &c. &c.
. 1778, Jan: Pvt Wm Coller (Collier) on muster roll, in Capt Peter Garland Co, 6th Va Regmt, from Lunenberg Co, Va.
. 1791, 21 Nov: Pittsylvania Co Deed Bk 9, p 89: from Samuel Watkins, and Mary Watkins, his mother, of Pittsylvania Co to John
. Givins of Pittsylvania Co for ___ about 150A in Pittsylvania Co on Burches Cr and bounded by Stone, William Collier,
. John Scales, Robert Walters. Signed Samuel Watkins, Mary (X her mark) Watkins. Recorded Nov 21, 1791
. 1804 Lee Co, Va Chancery Court Case (O.S. 36; N.S.12 records in Staunton, Va): William Collier made deposition, which inclu-
. ded a statement that he hunted in Turkey Cove in Lee County in 1776.
. The following statement came from Theodore R. (Ted) Collier PhD in 1984 (see info on him in ref below):
. "I cannot tell if it was Aaron's father or another Wm who first visited Turkey Cove. Further, Wm along with a John and the lat-
. ter's son Thomas appear on a tithe in Bedford (then Lunenburg) Co in 1752. The family appears on both sides of the Staunton
. River for the next half century plus, near where Bedford, Campbell, and Pittsylvania now meet. The first Shadrack appears in
. the 1770's, along with a Meshack who died 9-18-1776 as a soldier in Capt (?Gros) Scrugg's Comp, 5th Va Continental Line."
1 1. Aaron Collier, b 15 Jan 1750 Bedford Co (then Lunenburg Co), Va, m(1) Elizabeth Goad, m(2) Francis (Frankey) ____.
. He has been misidentified by many as the Aaron Collier, son of John and Sisely Collier of Augusta Co, Va, but their son Aaron
. died in 1789 in Lincoln Co, Ky, after the entire clan moved there.
. The 1770 Pittsylvania Co tithable lists proves Aaron's relationship to William Collier.
2 ? 2. Shadrack Collier, b ca 1754 Bedford Co (supposedly), m(1) Rhoda ____, m(2) (common law) to Edith Bab Hardy (Edy,Eda).
. No specific evidence that he was William's son, except he lived in the same general area as Aaron Collier, and Aaron named one
. of his sons Shadrack.
. Various references at www.rootsweb.com mention William Collier, but no original sources given: These may be for different Wil-
. liam Colliers:
. One version:
. William Collier, b 1718 Pittsylvania Co/Bedford Co, Va, m(1) ____, m(2) Mary Carter (Frances), and had children Aaron J. and
. Shadrack Collier. William was son of John Collier and Nancy (Anne) Eppes. John was son of Charles Collier, son of William Col-
. lier and Sallie Dulliford. (the middle initial J. for Aaron is a confusion with his son Aaron J.)
. Other versions:
. William Collier, b 10 Feb 1724 (or 1732) King and Queen Co, Va, m Mary (Frances) Carter. William was son of Capt John Collier
. and his 2nd wife Nancy (Anne) Eppes. John was son of Charles Collier and Mary Iyers (Eyers). Charles was son of William Col-
. lier and Sarah Mary (Sallie) Culliford. One source claimed the wife of William b 1724, was Gabrielle Carter, and his death date was
. Some of these sources claim that John Collier, who married Sisely Hall, and whose will was prob 1765 in Augusta Co, Va, was the
. son of the above John Collier, whose second wife was Nancy (Anne) Eppes. John's 1st wife was Francis Elizabeth Ironmonger.
. This would mean that William was a half-brother of John Collier who died in 1765. However some of the sources claim a different
. John Collier to be the son of Capt John Collier, namely John Collier, b 1707, d 1759, who lived and died in King and Queen Co,
. Va, and whose will proves him to not be the one who died 1765 Augusta Co.
. Only some of the sources list William as a son of John, son of Capt John, and looking at the entire picture it seems that both Wil-
. liam and John, d 1765, were arbitrarily tacked onto Capt John Collier's list of children, and this information blindly copied by
. many. In summary, there are so many different versions of these Colliers that with the information presented, one couldn't make
. any firm conclusions of these relationships.
. Other sources say that a William Collier, b ca 1720 Surry Co, Va, was a son of John Collier and Sarah Briggs. Another William
. Collier, b 23 Jun 1718 Gloucester, Va, was a son of James Collier and Louisa Heston.
. Acc to Ted Collier (see below), John and James Collier each patented 400 acres on Buffalo Creek, Augusta Co, Va on 12 Jan 1746.
. Apparently James died before 1760 and his closest relative was John, who inherited under primogeniture James' 400 acres. John
. in turn left that 400 acres to his eldest son Alexander (see John's 1760 will in Augusta Co and Botetourt Co and Rockbridge Co
. Deed Bk 1, p 404, 3 Aug 1778).
. Ref: 1. Theodore M. (Ted) Collier, PhD, PO Box 55235, Valencia, Ca 91355 (1984 address). He is descended from a John Col-
. lier, who had sons Ambrose, Meshack, and James, who moved to Lawrence Co, Ohio in the early 1800's. His family
. tradition is that "our Colliers came from the Scots Robertsons, one of whom changed his name when saved from pursuers
. by hiding in a collier (coal mine or barge). There are several historical references to such an event." Ted may be the Theo-
. dore M. Collier who was a 1940 graduate of Columbus School of Law, The Catholic University of America. He is appa-
. rently the one honored by the Theodore M. Collier Memorial Scholarship for Political Science at the College of the Can-
. yons, Santa Clarita, Cal, since Valencia is quite near Santa Clarita. He may be the Theodore Collier, who was b 28 Sep
. 1903, d 5 Apr 1988 Fresno Co, Cal. I mention Ted in detail, since he was the first person (whom I have encountered)
. who has shown that Aaron Collier of Lee County was not the son of John Collier of Augusta Co. Ted also provided the
. info on the "1771" Pittsylvania Co tax list, which he says listed "Aaron Collier, age 16-21, son of William". (this was the
. 1770 list actually)
. 2. Ken Collier's email: email@example.com, provided the actual 1770 Pittsylvania Co tithable list.
. Note: Fred Graham summarized the early Collier ancestry well in an 11 Aug 2000 posting at
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